Sunday, July 10, 2016

The ThrottleStop Guide

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ThrottleStop 8.10
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WARNING: ThrottleStop is an Intel Core 2 and Core i performance monitoring and modification tool. Some manufacturers throttle CPU performance to protect their motherboards or the power adapter from being damaged so keep that in mind before making any changes. Using ThrottleStop to overclock or over volt your CPU or to disable a laptop manufacturer's throttling scheme may damage your computer and is at your own risk.

New Features:
- Intel 4th Generation Core i Haswell CPU support.
- TDP Level Control for the ULV processors.
- report of throttling due to TDP limit or CPU package temperature.
- added PROCHOT (processor hot) offset reporting.
- improved Windows 7 and Windows 8 system tray / notification area icon support.

Guide to Automatically Launch ThrottleStop in Windows 10 by illuzn
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ThrottleStop originally started out as a simple tool to reverse some of the throttling schemes used in a variety of laptops such as the Dell Latitude E6400. Since then, many features have been added including the ability to overclock the Core 2 Extreme and Core i K and XM series like the Core i7-920XM mobile CPUs. I'll start with explaining all of the basics first and then get into showing some examples of how ThrottleStop needs to be set up for specific purposes like reducing throttling, overclocking or under volting Core 2 CPUs.

At the top left of ThrotteStop, you can choose between 4 different performance profiles. You can then manually switch between different profiles by either clicking on 1, 2, 3 or 4 or you can use the system tray menu to change between profiles that way.

Clock Modulation is a feature built into Intel CPUs that can be used to slow a processor down and throttle their performance internally. There are two main types of clock modulation throttling. I call the second type Chipset Clock Modulation since this type of throttling can be triggered by the chipset. A setting of 100.0% for both of these means that your CPU is trying to run at 100.0% of its designed capability. The monitoring area on the right hand side of TS reports these values as CMod% and Chip%. Any value on any thread that is less than 100.0% is evidence of throttling.

If your computer does not use either type of clock modulation throttling then don't check either box. The Dell laptops that use this throttling method will use one type of throttling or the other but not both at the same time so there is no reason to have both boxes checked. Run a ThrottleStop log file and check to see if your computer has a clock modulation throttling issue and what type of clock modulation it is using before enabling this feature.

Set Multiplier lets you select the multiplier of your CPU. For example, a T7500 has a default multiplier of 11 and a bus speed of 200 so it is designed to run at 11 x 200 MHz = 2200 MHz. If you reduce the Set Multiplier value to 9 your CPU will run at 9 x 200 MHz = 1800 MHz which might be able to increase your run time while on battery power.

On Core i CPUs, this works slightly differently. A Core i7-720QM has a default multiplier of 12. To get the maximum turbo boost out of a Core i CPU you need to set this value to 1 more than the default value. A Set Multiplier setting of 13 (12 + 1) will request full turbo boost from the processor. There is no need to set this value any higher than that.

Core 2 based procesors allow you to adjust the VID or Voltage ID of the processor. This is used with and controlled by the Set Multiplier check box. Adjusting this value provides a very simple way to under volt your Core 2 CPU which can significantly reduce the heat and power consumption of your laptop.

Power Saver lets your CPU use its lowest possible multiplier and voltage when idle. On the newer 45nm Core 2 and Core i CPUs, this does not seem to be necessary and provides little to no power savings because at idle, the CPU will be in one of the low power sleep states like C3/C4/C6 which uses a lower VID voltage than ThrottleStop or RM Clock lets you select anyhow. This feature is mostly for the early 65nm Core 2 CPUs like the T7500.

This post explains the power savings you get on a 45nm Core 2 CPU at idle by adjusting the FID and VID to low values. During my testing, the savings were minimal.

http://ift.tt/1LTFGrP

SLFM stands for Super Low Frequency Mode and is an option on many of the Core 2 CPUs. With this enabled, at idle your CPU will reduce the bus speed in half which will reduce your total CPU speed in half. Here's an example of an X9100.

11.5 x 266 MHz = 3059 MHz - HFM, High Frequency Mode
6.0 x 266 MHz = 1596 MHz - LFM, Low Frequency Mode
6.0 x 133 MHz = 798 MHz - SLFM, Super Low Frequency Mode

SLFM mode also controls access to the lowest possible SLFM voltages. On many Core 2 CPUs, the minimum LFM voltage is 1.00v. To go lower than this value you must enable SLFM mode. RM Clock uses a similar option which it calls DFFS. This stands for dynamic front side bus frequency switching. I recommend using HWiNFO32 so you can see what voltages and multipliers your Core 2 CPU supports.

Disable Turbo allows you to easily disable the turbo boost feature of your CPU. Core 2 CPUs call turbo boost Intel Dynamic Acceleration (IDA) but this works very similar to the Turbo Boost feature in the Core i CPUs. If this box is checked and clicking on it does not change anything then that means your CPU does not support turbo boost.

EIST stands for Enhanced Intel SpeedStep. This needs to be enabled so ThrottleStop can control your CPU. If this box is grayed out, that means the bios has locked this feature so it can not be turned on and off which is common for most laptops.

BD PROCHOT stands for bi-directional prochot. PROCHOT stands for processor hot which is the signal that is activated within the CPU when it reaches approximately 100C to 105C depending on the model number. This signal is what initiates thermal throttling so the CPU can slow down and keep from over heating. Intel included a bi-directional feature so if something else like a GPU is running too hot, it would be able to send a PROCHOT signal directly to the CPU and force it to cool down so the entire laptop cools down. Very few laptops seem to use this type of throttling. This feature was added for the Asus G51. Disabling this will allow your CPU to continue to run at full speed. Disabling this will not prevent your CPU from thermal throttling at its normal Intel set thermal throttle temperature. By default this is locked and you will need to go into the Options window to unlock it so you can toggle it on and off.

C States should allow you to toggle the C1E state of your CPU. The Intel publicly available documentation does not fully explain this feature. On a Core 2 CPU, using this feature will cause the average multiplier to randomly hunt up and down at idle. Disable this if you want to avoid that.

Log File will create a log of your CPU's performance and will save it to a file called ThrottleStopLog.txt in your ThrottleStop folder. The log is only updated to your hard drive once per minute so you will need to exit ThrottleStop to make sure all data gets written to the log file.

More Data will sample the performance of your computer approximately 8 times a second instead of the usual once per second. This can be used with the Log File option so you can go back and see exactly what your CPU was doing.

Monitoring Panel

The monitoring area on the right hand side of ThrottleStop consists of 6 columns.

FID stands for Frequency Identifier. This is also commonly referred to as the multiplier that your CPU is using. ThrottleStop uses high performance timers within the CPU and can very accurately calculate the average multiplier during each 1 second sample period. If during the previous 1 second, the CPU spent half of its time using the 10 multiplier and the other half of the time using the 11 multiplier, ThrottleStop would report that as 10.50. The multiplier can be changing hundreds of times a second within a CPU so reporting the average multipiler will accurately tell you exactly how your CPU is performing. ThrottleStop uses the method recommended by Intel in their November 2008 Turbo White Paper. At idle or when a CPU is lightly loaded, CPU-Z does not follow this method so you will likely see some disagreement between these 2 programs. CPU-Z does this for more consistent validations.

C0% is a measurement of what percentage of time a CPU is spending in the C0 state. This is the state when the CPU is working so this number is very similar to a CPU load meter. When clock modulation is being used, the C0% is a much more accurate look at how hard your CPU is really working. It can be completely different than what the Task Manager CPU Usage statistic is showing. If the Task Manager shows 100% and ThrottleStop shows only 75%, that's usually a sign of clock modulation throttling that is slowing your CPU down internally.

CMod% is Clock Modulation percent and this should always show 100.0% on each thread. 75.0% shows that your CPU is only working internally 75% of the time. This number is an approximation only.

Chip% is Chipset Clock Modulation and like the above, shoud always be reporting as 100.0%.

DTS shows the direct reading of the on chip Digital Thermal Sensor. This sensor is designed to count down towards zero as the CPU heats up. Intel designed their processors so thermal throttling starts when this sensor reaches zero on any core. By clicking on the Temp button, you can convert this data to an approximate core temperature value.

Max keeps track of either your hottest core temperature or how close you got to the thermal throttling point. The CLR button at the bottom will clear this saved data.

Buttons:

Save will save any changes you have made to ThrottleStop so any changes you have made can be restored the next time you start ThrottleStop.

Batt displays the battery level of your laptop.

GPU will show you the temperature of your Nvidia or ATI GPU if the driver supports this. You will need to first go into the Options window to select if you would like to add GPU monitoring to ThrottleStop.

Options... will open the Options window.

Turn On / Turn Off lets you decide if you want to use ThrottleStop in Monitoring Only mode or if you want to turn ThrottleStop on so it is actively adjusting the performance of your CPU.

DTS / CLR are explained above.

Right Mouse Click Menu Options:

There are some additional ThrottleStop features that can be accessed by right clicking on the main GPU. There will be different options depending on whether you have a Core 2 or a Core i CPU and whether it is and Extreme CPU or not. All CPUs should have the following 4 options.

About... will tell you what version of ThrottleStop you are using.

Update BCLK will recalculate the bus speed or base clock speed your CPU is running at. For most CPUs, the only time you need to recalculate the bus speed is after you use a program like SetFSB or any tool that changes this speed. Constantly recalculating the bus speed wastes CPU cycles, increases power consumption and reduces battery life. Once the bus speed is accurately determined, it doesn't change unless you change it so there is no reason to constantly recalculate this.

Minimize will minimize ThrottleStop to the system tray / notification area at the bottom right.

Exit will exit ThrottleStop. Make sure you have saved all changes before exiting.

Core 2 Extreme Menu Options

Edit: With v.2.95, these options are now located on the main ThrottleStop window.

Reset CPU FID/VID will reset your CPU to its default maximum FID/VID values.

Unlock Max FID/VID will unlock both the maximum FID and VID so you can increase your multiplier and core voltage limits. Be careful when overclocking your CPU. Randomly adjusting the FID multiplier higher can cause an instant crash or blue screen (BSOD). The maximum VID for Core 2 mobile CPUs is 1.5000 so be careful when experimenting. This thread at NBR explains this feature.

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Core i Menu Options
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Edit: With v.2.95, these options are now located on the main ThrottleStop window.

Turbo Power Limits... menu will open up a new window where you can view what the turbo TDP power and TDC current limits are for your CPU. When your CPU is operating below these limits, you will get full turbo boost depending on how many cores are operating in the active C0/C1 state. When your CPU goes beyond either of these limits, turbo boost will immediately stop. Turbo boost can rapidly cycle on and off when you are near these limits which allows the CPU to limit its power consumption.

Core i7 Dual Core UM Example
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Turbo Ratio Limits... will open up a window that shows you what FID / multiplier your CPU can use depending on how many cores are in the active state. A Core i7-720QM will have this set to 21, 18, 13 and 13. This means when 1 core is active and the other 3 cores are asleep, that core can use a maximum 21 multiplier as long as it is operating within the turbo TDP / TDC power limits. When 2 cores are active, the maximum drops to 18 and when 3 or 4 cores are active, the maximum multiplier is only 13. If you go over the turbo TDP / TDC power limits then the CPU will turn off all turbo boost and you will be running at the default multiplier which is only 12 for a Core i7-720QM.

The Extreme CPUs lets you adjust the FID higher and you can also adjust the turbo TDP / TDC limits higher so your CPU can operate at maximum speed even when fully loaded. Some of the Core i5 and Core i7 dual cores will let you adjust the turbo TDP / TDC limits but you won't be able to adjust the multipliers unless you have an Extreme CPU. Using ThrottleStop to adjust the TDP/TDC values higher on the Alienware M11x UM processors has resulted in performance increases of up to 50%. You can read more about that feature here:

http://ift.tt/1WAzflp

Options...
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Profile Names

This section lets you customize what your profile names are called. Your name changes will show up in the system tray menu.

Notification Area

This is Microsoft's new term for the system tray area. You can choose to view your CPU or GPU temperature or your CPU MHz here. You can also pick what font you would like to use in the system tray.

Alarm

This feature allows you to select an alarm and automatically change profiles based on your CPU or GPU temperature. DTS refers to a direct reading from your CPU temperature sensor which counts down to zero as the CPU heats up. A DTS alarm of 10 means that when the CPU temperature is within 10 degrees of the thermal throttling point, ThrottleStop will change to your selected performance profile. The GPU alarm is in degrees C so if you set a GPU alarm of 90, ThrottleStop will change profiles when it reaches that temperature.

Default Profiles

AC Profile - Your computer will use this profile when plugged in.

Battery Profile - Your computer will use this profile when you switch to battery power.

Low Battery % - If you set this to 30% then your computer will switch profiles when the batter gets down to this level.

Low Battery Profile - Lets you select the profile for the above feature.

Miscellaneous

Start Minimized - This option will force ThrottleStop to start up minimized to the system tray.

Minimize on Close - When clicking on the ThrottleStop close gadget, ThrottleStop will minimize instead of exiting.

AC - On, Battery - Off - This will cause ThrottleStop to go into monitoring mode when you switch from AC to Battery and to switch back to being Enabled when you plug back in.

Do not reset FID / VID on Exit - By default when ThrottleStop exits, it tries to set your CPU to its Intel default settings which should allow the operaing system to resume full control of your CPU. If you don't want this happening then use this option.

Unlock Bidirectional PROCHOT - This is a safety feature for the BD PROCHOT feature on the main page. It's generally not a good idea to turn off BD PROCHOT so this might get users to think a little harder about what they are doing.

ATI GPU or Nvidia GPU - If the graphics driver supports temperature monitoring, ThrottleStop will be able to report and log your GPU temperatures.

Dual IDA on Start - Dual IDA mode is a special feature where some Core 2 mobile CPUs can have both cores locked at the highest IDA multiplier. This feature will try to force your CPU into Dual IDA mode as soon as ThrottleStop starts.

Profile 1 - Dual IDA - This option dedicates Profile 1 to always try and use Dual IDA mode whenever you switch to it.

Here is some more information about Dual IDA mode and if your Core 2 CPU and motherboard bios supports this feature.

http://ift.tt/1LTFHvQ

Power Saver C0% - This option lets you adjust the sensitivity of the Power Saver feature. Setting this to a higher number will prevent your CPU from running at full speed until the load increases to a higher value.

Force TDP / TDC - This option was developed for the Alienware M11x and controls how often the turbo TDP / TDC values are updated in the processor. The M11x seems to reach maximum CPU performance when this value is set to approximately 8. If you don't have an M11x then this should be set to a high value like 1000 or higher.

Run Program on Profile Change - This is a new feature that lets you select a program to run as soon as you enter a new profile or when yu start up or resume from stand-by or hibernate mode. This is a very useful feature when you are using SetFSB. You can enter the SetFSB file location in this box along with the appropriate command line parameters so when ThrottleStop changes profiles, it can automatically increase or decrease your clock speed by calling SetFSB to do the deed. If you use the SetFSB -q option, this can happen quietly in the background without ever having to see SetFSB.

This feature might also be useful during an alarm. You could program this feature to run any program or bat file to shutdown or warn you if your computer is running too hot.

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What say is a better christening of the new WIBYRN thread than a tale of the crazy cousins?

Earlier this evening I made my way over to my old grannie's house to clean up the boxes of Christmas decorations. Whilst the killer of Macbooks did an admiral job decorating the tree, her arrangement of elves on the chandelier over the dining room table...was not.

One elf was servicing another whilst simultaneously taking it from behind by a third elf. :eek:

The fourth elf was hanging on a piece of tinsel like Miley Cyrus on her wrecking ball, complete with a clay phallus in his hand.

In hindsight I probably should have taken a photo before pulling those little dolls down, but seeing as my sister and nephew were walking thru the door at the moment, I didn't want the big boy pointing that out to his mama.

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Tuesday, June 14, 2016

The Happy Thread :D

So i havent seen a thread like this, and i have seen the "whats bothering you?" thread so i though we needed a counter part :) In this thread you can post good things that happened or if you acheived something cool and wanted to share it or just about any good thing that happened :D So im gonna start. I just finished my final exams and got decent to good grades :) and i have vacation now so i sleep till around 11 o clock every day, and i just realized how great the city i live in actually is :D So thats the great things that happened to me recently, how bout you ? :D

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Avatars are messed up across the board. Every skin except VB4 has them cropped in the center. VB4 shows the entire image but has it compressed horizontally/stretch vertically. Also, scale of avatar box seems way too big compared to text box in VB4.

Edit: Crop/uneven scale seems to affect only some avatars. Guess it is an image size limit thing.

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Razer Edge and Edge Pro Owner's Lounge

I have the full setup - controller, tablet, dock, and today received my controller batteries as well as a StarTech USB 3.0 to Gigabit Ethernet adapter.

The battery slab (more like a wafer, it's very light) has no indicator lights on it. No traditional "push button to see how much charge" like you would find on a decent Dell or IBM battery. The tablet can tell you how much battery charge is on the battery, but that means you have to put the tablet in the controller to check.

The battery does charge in the controller when the tablet is not in the controller, so that's a plus. It requires a controller or keyboard accessory to charge as the connector is different than the one on the power cable going to the tablet. Haven't had a chance to play games on it yet to see if it drains the extra battery first or both at the same time. It charges both at the same time at least.

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Clevo BIOS Thread

THIS THREAD IS FOR CLEVO MODELS WHICH ARE CURRENTLY IN PRODUCTION.

Current supported models in this thread:
- P870DM (Sager NP9870) / P870DM-G (Sager NP9870-S)
- P750DM (Sager NP9758) / P750DM-G / P770DM (Sager NP9778) / P770DM-G / P751DM / P771DM
- P775DM
- P670RG (Sager NP8678) / P670RE (Sager NP8677) / P650RG (Sager NP 8658) / P650RE (Sager NP8657)


FOR OLDER CLEVO MODELS (RELEASED BETWEEN 2014-2015) WHICH HAVE BEEN DISCONTINUED AND THUS NO LONGER RECEIVE BIOS UPDATES YOU SHOULD CHECK THIS THREAD: http://ift.tt/1tu6731


FOR OLDER CLEVO MODELS (RELEASED BETWEEN 2012-2014) WHICH HAVE BEEN DISCONTINUED AND THUS NO LONGER RECEIVE BIOS UPDATES YOU SHOULD CHECK THIS THREAD: http://ift.tt/1tu6z1c


FOR OLDER CLEVO MODELS (RELEASED BEFORE 2012) WHICH HAVE BEEN DISCONTINUED AND THUS NO LONGER RECEIVE BIOS UPDATES YOU SHOULD CHECK THIS THREAD: http://ift.tt/1rnGwXt

Before reading this thread, please know that this thread should not exist in the first place. While the option to email your Clevo reseller and ask for the latest BIOS is considered now the official policy of obtaining the latest BIOS, it should be noted that Clevo is the only major notebook manufacturer that has such a policy. My opinion alongside that of other users which have posted in this thread is that a reputable notebook manufacturer like Clevo should make BIOS updates publically available.

*DISCLAIMER*

IF YOU HAVE A FRIENDLY CLEVO RESELLER THAT CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH THE LATEST BIOS I STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU TO GET THE BIOS FROM HIM RATHER THAN FROM THIS THREAD.

IN CASE YOU MANAGE TO BRICK YOUR MACHINE BY TRYING TO FLASH YOUR BIOS I HOLD NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR SUCH AN OUTCOME. BY PROCEDING TO DOWNLOAD ANY OF THE BIOS POSTED IN THIS THREAD AND UPDATING YOUR SYSTEM BIOS AND KBC/EC WITH SUCH A BIOS YOU AGREE TO THIS RULE.

How do I flash the BIOS ?

First you need to get the latest BIOS, generally you should do this by emailing your reseller for it. IF this is not possible then you can still download it from this thread. The BIOS comes either as an ISO or as an archive. The BIOS is made of two parts, a system bios and an EC/KBC.

The latest BIOS will always contain all the updates of previous BIOS releases.

ALWAYS UPDATE THE EC/KBC FIRST AND THEN THE SYSTEM BIOS.

FOR Clevo BIOS and mods and related stuff, you can check this page: http://premamod.com

How to update:

Method I (using a USB stick)
If the bios is an archive then this is what you need to do:

1. Make a bootable USB stick using zfactor's guide available here: how to flash your bios with dos using a usb stick:
(Alternatively you can make a bootable CD).
2. If you have the BIOS and the EC/KBC files in separate archives or in separate folders, copy them to the USB stick but keep them separate, don't mix their files in the same folder. If they come in a single folder/archive then copy them as they are, in a single folder.
3. Now restart your laptop and boot from the USB stick.
4. If all goes well you should now be in DOS mode. Type "dir"; to see the folders you have on the USB stick. Now navigate to the folder where you have the EC/KBC files, type "cd <folder name>" to get inside the folder.
5. Once you are in the folder with your EC/KBC files, type "update.bat". If you have your EC/KBC files in the same folder with the rest of the BIOS files, then type "step1.bat" or "updateEC.bat" or "ECFlash.bat". If you are uncertain what to run, read the Readme.txt included in the archive, or ask here in the forums.
6. Wait for the system to be flashed, it should reboot automatically once it is done. If it does not, then give it some time, make sure the system has finished the flashing otherwise you will brick your laptop.
7. Once this stage is complete, boot again from the USB stick.
8. Navigate to the folder where you have your BIOS files.
9. Type "update.bat" to update the BIOS. If you have your EC/KBC files in the same folder with the rest of the BIOS files, then type "step2.bat" or "updateBIOS.bat" or "flashme.bat". If you are uncertain what to run, read the Readme.txt included in the archive, or ask here in the forums.
10. Wait for the system to be flashed, it should reboot automatically once it is done. If it does not, then give it some time, make sure the system has finished the flashing otherwise you will brick your laptop.
11. Your Done.

Method II (using an ISO file)
If the BIOS you have downloaded is an ISO file.

1. Burn the ISO to a CD.
2. Now restart and boot from the CD/DVD.
3. If all goes well you should now be in DOS mode. Type "dir" to see the folders you have on the USB stick. Now navigate to the folder where you have the EC/KBC files, type "cd <folder name>" to get inside the folder.
4. Once you are in the folder with your EC/KBC files, type "ECFlash.bat". (the name of this file may differ, it can be update.bat, flashme.bat, etc.) . If you are uncertain what to run, read the Readme.txt included in the archive, or ask here in the forums.
5. Wait for the system to be flashed, it should reboot automatically once it is done. If it does not, then give it some time, make sure the system has finished the flashing otherwise you will brick your laptop.
6. Once this stage is complete, boot again from the CD.
7. Navigate to the folder where you have your BIOS files.
8. Here you need to type the name of the ".bat" file that automatically flashes your BIOS. This name can differ from BIOS to BIOS, it can be: "update.bat", "updateBIOS.bat", "flashme.bat", etc. If you are uncertain what to run, read the Readme.txt included in the archive, or ask here in the forums.
9. Wait for the system to be flashed, it should reboot automatically once it is done. If it does not, then give it some time, make sure the system has finished the flashing otherwise you will brick your laptop.
10. Done

!!!In the attention of all Sager users!!!
It is strongly recommended that you keep to a Sager branded BIOS, therefore just email Sager if you want a BIOS update, they will email you back with the latest version. The reason why this is recommended is because, while you can flash a vanilla Clevo BIOS on a Sager laptop, trying to flash back to a Sager BIOS MIGHT BRICK your laptop and you will have to pay to have it
fix.

There is a method however that might allow you to flash a Sager BIOS over a Clevo one, but this method is very risky and should only be used if absolutely necessary. More here: http://ift.tt/1tu5Yg3


It is not recommended to downgrade any Clevo/Sager BIOS to any previous version. Any such attempt might brick your laptop.

I just wanted to let everyone know that you can no longer download Clevo BIOS from http://ift.tt/1rnHCm0

Alternatively, you can find them at these sources:
Or
Mirror link provided by palkeo

Full List of AMI BIOS Flash commands

Clevo P870DM (Sager NP9870) / Clevo P870DM-G (Sager NP9870-S)
Bios Version Date Links: Changes
BIOS V 1.05.07 for P870DM-G only March 2016 Link (Hosted at bestmail.ws) CLEVO BIOS for this model.

Update CPU micro code. Solve “Press F4 in CMOS setup will cause system cold boot” problem.

BIOS V 1.05.07 for P870DM only March 2016 Link (Hosted at bestmail.ws) CLEVO BIOS for this model.

Update CPU micro code. Solve “Press F4 in CMOS setup will cause system cold boot” problem.

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P750DM (Sager NP9758) / P750DM-G / P770DM (Sager NP9778) / P770DM-G / P751DM / P771DM
Bios Version Date Links: Changes
BIOS V 1.05.10 for all P7x0DM / P7x1DM / -G models except P775DM March 2016 Link (Hosted at bestmail.ws) CLEVO BIOS for this model.

Update ME firmware to 11.0.1.1001. Fix Intel PECI utility can’t work problem.

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P775DM
Bios Version Date Links: Changes
BIOS V 1.05.06 for P775DM March 2016 Link (Hosted at bestmail.ws) CLEVO BIOS for this model.

Update ME firmware to 11.0.1.1001. Update CPU micro code.

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P670RG (Sager NP8678) / P670RE (Sager NP8677) / P650RG (Sager NP 8658) / P650RE (Sager NP8657)
Bios Version Date Links: Changes
BIOS V 1.05.12 for P6xxRA/P6xxRG/P6xxRE3/P6xxRE6 Jan 2016 Link (Hosted at bestmail.ws) CLEVO BIOS for this model.

Update TPM code. Decrease S3/resume time.

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Mr. Fox's GeForce 344.75 Desktop Driver Mod for 780M, 880M and 980M Mobile GPUs

Monday, June 13, 2016

Alienware Area-51 Desktop Owner's Lounge

Nice! Great job on that wPrime run.

I don't stress out too much about CPU fatigue. That's just so unnecessary, IMHO. It's a consumable component. Worse case scenario is you buy a new CPU in a couple of years. I am still waiting for my 2920XM and 3920XM to fatigue from excessive voltage and there's no sign of it. But, I have been sternly admonished repeatedly by noobs that I was going to kill them.

The most important thing is to extract the most performance from it that you can, for as long as you can... run it hard, put it up wet, and if it's going to die let it go out in a blaze of glory. Nothing lasts forever.

Let the BGA jockeys obsess over the CPU welded to their mobo. They actually need to worry, but we don't have to care.

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*OFFICIAL* Alienware M17x R3/R4 Owner's Lounge Thread

Welcome to the Owner's Lounge for the Alienware M17x R3 and M17x R4!

(M17x R3 OL part 1 is here, part 2 can be found here and part 3 is here) initial M17x R4 discussion can be found here

Manuals, Teardown, Drivers, etc.

System Teardown
*To be added once/if Dell adds it to their official youtube channel.

Manuals (Owners Manual and Service Manual)
M17x R3 - Documentation
M17x R4 - Documentation

Drivers straight from Dell support
Drivers and Downloads | Dell [United States]

Dell Released Parts List for M17xR3 -
http://ift.tt/1sDw13G

Dell GPU-Specific Parts List for M17x R3

  • VDV04 N11E-GS GeForce 460m
  • 87XRJ N11E-GS GeForce 460m Kit (Video card VDV04 + Thermal Assemblies J9H7X)
  • YT99J N12E-GS GeForce 560m
  • 8H4G6 N12E-GS GeForce 560m Kit (Video card YT99J + Thermal Assemblies J9H7X)
  • 3MF8R N12E-GTX2 GeForce GTX580m
  • RFYN9 N12E-GTX2 GeForce GTX580m Kit (Video card 3MF8R + Thermal Assemblies V1K2G) (For the throttling at 78C°)
  • V9XKH AMD Blackcomb XT 6970m
  • WFWCW AMD Blackcomb XT 6970m (Video card V9XKH + Thermal Assemblies YHP1P)
  • V5TGF AMD Granville Pro 6870m
  • 5MKH5 AMD Granville Pro 6870m Kit (Video card V5TGF + Thermal Assemblies VH0YK)
  • RDRGR AMD Blackcomb XTX 6990m
  • CK7HW AMD Blackcomb XTX 6990m Kit (Video Card RDRGR + Thermal Assemblies YHP1P)
Dell GPU-Specific Parts List for M17x R4
(subject to availability based on manufacturer supply)
  • HXD3N N13E-GS1 GeForce GTX675m
  • C0XGT N13E-GS1 GeForce GTX675m Kit (Video card HXD3N + Support Plate 3MHHT)
  • M3XJV NV13E-GE GeForce GTX660m
  • 5H5NC NV13E-GE GeForce GTX660m Kit (Video card M3XJV + Support Plate 3MHHT)
  • 747M2 AMD Wimbledon XT 7970m
  • 8DG8P AMD Wimbledon XT 7970m Kit (Video card 747M2 + Support Plate 3PVGK)
Benchmarking, Overclocking etc.
Overclocking
http://ift.tt/24NuqnP

Benchmarks Discussion and Result Sharing
http://ift.tt/1sDwX89

GPU Related Items
http://ift.tt/1sDxbvS

Misc. Links
Owner Answered FAQ/etc.

http://ift.tt/1sDx2bK

http://ift.tt/1sDwwum

http://ift.tt/24Nu5BB

http://ift.tt/24Nu2pg

http://ift.tt/1sDwOS6

http://ift.tt/24NtJe8

http://ift.tt/1sDxdUD

http://ift.tt/1sDwZNj

http://ift.tt/24NuFiH

http://ift.tt/1sDwHWE

http://ift.tt/24NudAP

http://ift.tt/24NuqnC

BIOS Recovery in case you brick your M17x R3

http://ift.tt/24NtHmt

LCD DeadPixel Test

Order Status Discussion
http://ift.tt/24NurIj

3D Capability/Discussion
http://ift.tt/24NuS5e

Bags, Backpacks, Cases & Sleeves
http://ift.tt/24Nuunk

Clean Windows Install
http://ift.tt/1OhBHu1
http://ift.tt/1OhBHu1
http://ift.tt/1OhBlUj

***IMPORTANT NOTE FOR THOSE PERFORMING A CLEAN INSTALL WITH AMD GPU***

&#8226;For M17xR3 with AMD, install the AMD Display Driver first. Once done, the Intel Driver must be installed when in Integrated Mode. You will need to use the FN+F7 to switch over to Intel. A reboot may be necessary. Once done, install the Intel HD driver. Once installed, switch back over to your AMD GPU.

Alienware Videos
Alienware Channel

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Latitude 7450 Owners' Thread

It is listed in the manual posted above too:

Table 20. Video
Feature
Specification
Type
Integrated on system board
Controller:
UMA
Intel HD Graphics 5500
Discrete
Nvidia GeForce 840M Graphics
Data bus
PCI-E Gen2 x4
External display support
&#8226;
one HDMI
&#8226;
one mDP
NOTE
:
Support one VGA, two DP/DVI ports through
Docking station

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***Gigabyte P37X Owner's Lounge***

So a couple interesting comparisons to the 35x...

The 37x does not have a woofer, but the 35x does

They have the exact same # of ports despite the extra room on the 37x

The 37x does not offer a wqhd screen, while the 35x does

It appears that gigabyte just took their p35x design and expanded it, instead of adding new things for the extra space. The only new thing I can see is the macro keys. I wonder if the cooling is any better.

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The Official MSI GE40-2OC Owner's Lounge

Kicking off this thread to split it from the big new models release announcement thread.

Hi all,

Received my GE40 bright and early Saturday morning, but due to a family visit didn't get a chance to really play until yesterday!

Heres the lowdown:-

Build quality:- Overall very good - only the wrist rest and lid top are aluminium, the rest is black plastic. The gloss screen bezel is a bit distracting, but not the end of the world.

Keyboard:- Firm base and nice springy chicklet keys - felt good on my hand while gaming and typing. Slight annoyance that the far right of the keyboard has Home, End, PGup/Down etc - the Home key specifically is very annoying, as I regularly hit it while aiming for backspace. Other than that, no issues. No backlighting as reported.

Screen:-
PRO's: Resolution is perfect for this size of laptop. Anything higher and your going to struggle to make out text and icons at a reasonable sitting distance (and I have very good eyesight). Matte screen does a good job of reducing reflections, and response times on games are excellent, with no dicernable ghosting or input lag.

CON's: Matte effect is quite grainy at first. I strongly suggest a wipe over with a damp microfibre cloth followed by drying off with a soft dry one - this greatly reduced the out of the box "grainy" effect on my panel without impacting its anti-reflection properties. Viewing angles not great - There is certainly a sweet spot to be had between brightness and colour, but only for one person sitting directly in front of it (fine with me, but others may feel otherwise).

Temps/Cooling:-
Under gaming stress (not furmark) - the GPU ranged from 72C (Skyrim extended play) up to 80C (MechWarrior Online). CPU went as high as 88C.The CPU is located roughly in the middle of the keyboard, but the GPU sits underneath the wrist rest, making it warm when your hand is sitting there. In contrast, the right hand side of the machine remains at room temperature... why gaming laptop vendors cant locate their GPU's and CPU's on the off-side of the laptop away from your WASD hand I shall never know.

The laptop is cooled by a single fan that draws in from underneath near the GPU and exhausts to the left hand side of the laptop. This area exhausts a constant stream of hot air. While the fan does get going when gaming, its not so loud as to be a problem if your wearing a headset, and certainly isn't going to be an issue for anything at a LAN party for instance. Be careful not to block the intake, or your gonna have a bad time...

I haven't had a look at the thermal paste etc yet - but I don't imagine changing it would be an issue, as the whole heatpipe arrangement seems to screw off in one go from under the (warranty sticker protected... sigh) backplate.

Performance:-

DISK: The unit shipped with a Sandisk 128gb mSATA SSD. A quick crystal disk mark sat Sequential 1MB's at 480 / 290 - not world beating but nippy. 4k + QD32 was similarly fast in write speed, which was nice.The mSATA drives do indeed live in a ODD slot caddy - I haven't yet worked out how to open this, and didn't want to just yank it out, so I haven't fitted my extra 256gb drive yet! The 2.5" is easily accessible internally though.

CPU: See any other 4702MQ review for details - CPU-z showed that the cooling solution could cope well, and that it wasn't capping the turbo during gaming. Not much more to say there.

GPU: The GTX 760m is a real star - Bear in mind that the best drivers I could get that fully supported it where the 311.70's OEM's from MSI's site (via a link on laptopvideo2go) - there don't appear to be formal 320 series drivers that support the mobile GTX7xx series yet. The laptop shipped with 311.42 or something preinstalled. The chip clocked up to its peak turbo of 812mhz constantly during gaming, even for extended runs in Skyrim, Borderlands2 and MWO that I tried and didn't throttle. Seems like a perfect match for the 1600x900 and 4702MQ they've put in this 14" laptop.

Non-gaming: Many of you seem interested in this - I clocked 4.3 hours before the 6% critical battery warning messing about on the web on Wifi at full screen brightness using the Intel GPU. The unit doesn't feel like a gaming laptop in this mode - its pretty damn quiet (low fan noise), very cool to the touch, and performs great. I could definitely live with carrying this around if I still took classes - not as quiet or light as an ultrabook perhaps, but you can actually do some proper gaming on it as well... which brings us nicely on to -

Gaming FPS: The interesting bit. I use a registered version of fraps to monitor how games were running.

Skyrim:- Native res, High defaults, AA and AF to 0, FXAA disabled: 60-80fps, no discernible slowdown, GPU capped at 72C during extended playtime. Game is butter smooth even in heavy combat/particle effects. Got some 60FPS microstuttering when enabling AA and AF (as per the Geforce control tool recommendation) - could be a driver issue as only happened when I panned the mouse about. Disabling AA/AF fixed this.

MechWarrior Onling:- Native res, Medium defaults, Post processing off. 35-50 FPS, no discernible slowdown, GPU capped at 80C during extended playtime. Game runs great, and is known for being poorly optimised atm. Nothing else to report.

Borderlands 2:- Native res, High everything except PhysX (Low), AA off, framerate uncapped. Average of 50-80 FPS depending on what was going on - didn't dip below 40 at any point - great fun and much more fluid and playable than at 1920x1080 on the GTX 660M in my old laptop.

Company of Heroes 2 Open Beta:- Native res, everything High, AA off. Average 65 FPS, dropped a bit to high 30's during big artillery fights - otherwise fantastic.

Overall gaming rating:- Frickin' awesome. Took everything I flung at it and performed better than I'd been expecting. I'm surprised that there is no sign of thermal or power throttling during my tests for a unit so small and light. Highly recommended.

Other Stuff:-
Bundled with a massive pile of bloatware pish that took 15 minutes to clear out. Highlights included Norton internet security, winzip etc. Also ships with a restore partition (on the hard disk rather than the SSD thankfully) and a tool to burn a restore disk (not sure if this works to a USB pen drive or just a CD...). The MSI software stack has some nice features - plugging in an external mouse automatically disables the trackpad for instance, and the FN+hotkeys are all sensibly placed and what you would expect. Webcam is a run of the mill unit that will be fine for Skype.

Audio is a Realtek HD audio chip, not the soundblaster I was expecting from the spec - the machine comes with some sort of SoundBlaster booster software however. A bit naughty to advertise it as SoundBlaster (implying creative) audio though imo.

Network is Realtek + some weird Wifi card. No issues.

BIOS settings - practically non-existent. Disk settings (AHCI, RAID, SATA) but nothing for the CPU, devices, memory etc etc. Will need a modified BIOS before we can try anything interesting on it really.

Next steps - I'm going to open her up, take a look at the thermal paste to make sure its up to scratch, add my faster 256gb mSATA SSD and do a clean Windows 7 install on there (drivers permitting - failing that I'll do a clean Windows 8).

I'll definitely be picking up a small laptop riser/cooler for extended play - both the bring the small machine up to a more friendly eye level and to help keep it nice and ventilated. Some kind of USB gaming keypad might also be in order, as while the heat around the WASD area (where the heatsink and fan are) is certainly better than my last alienware, it still annoys me a bit!

Hope this brief handson writeup helps some of you!

#Wonderdog

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Sunday, June 12, 2016

** Official Sager NP8671 / Clevo P670SE - Sager NP8672 / Clevo P670SG Owner's Lounge **

This is the model I've been waiting for, Mythlogic also has them up for pre-order with no IPS screen but they do offer a Full HD (1920x1080) Matte 72% NTSC Color Gamut LED Backlit LCD option, not sure what screen they use but it has decent specs.
I don't mind if it's a TN panel as long as its a very good, sure I'd be great with IPS but can live with it if it doesn't but it has to have good viewing angles and color reproduction.
Looks just as sexy as the smaller model.
Anyone know the dimensions ? It looks a bit thicker than the P650SE version but overall very nice.
Hey HT if you do a review of this model (please do:)) can you get the 980M version! ;)

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Aw m18x R2 Dual 980m SLI upgrade!!

Finally!!! Alienware M18x R2 with Dual 980M SLI

Here are some basic steps to upgrade Alienware M18x R2 to Dual 980M SLI successfully. This configuration only tested Windows 8 or 8.1, it will not work with Windows 7.

1. Before replacing card, go to system Bios (keep your old graphics card inside system or not any graphics card installed). Then click on Boot tab, UEFI = Enabled, Legacy ROM = Disabled. F10 to save bios and Exit. After then turn off system.

2. install Single or Dual 980M.

3. Now system will post. You will get text on screen something like, Checking devices, can not find boot device press any key to restart.

4. You will need to create bootable UEFI windows 8.1 installation USB flash drive.

Rufus is a small utility that creates bootable USB flash drive for Windows 7 or 8. What makes Rufus different is that it offers 3 different partition scheme to target the system type, such as those UEFI based computers. You can make a bootable drive that can directly boot off on a UEFI computer without turning the Secure Boot off. It’s free

1. Plug in USB flash drive,

2. Launch the program. Since it&#8217;s portable, you can simply just download and run it.

3. Check the option &#8220;Create a bootable disk using: ISO Image&#8220;, and click the icon next to it to pick up the ISO image file.

4. Select &#8220;GPT partition scheme for UEFI computer&#8220;.

Before you click Start button, check to make sure the settings are selected to similar like Figure

5. Click Start, and dont stare (it will only take few min :D). take out USB drive when done. :)


5. Connect USB flash drive to system and press power button, now you will able to Install windows 8.1.

6. That's all you need to do you to do.

I do specially thanks to @godfafa for procedure. @Mr. Fox Actually your suggestion about UEFI was correct, if we did more research on it then we can able to achieve it early. Also credit goes to @j95, @svl7, @Prema, @Cloudfire(specially to keeping struggle Alive :)) And finally @GTO_PAO11 for Cheering :p.

I will update more when i get time to do.

Drivers

Check below link for modded Nvidia driver INF V344.75.

344.75 nvdmi

Gaming

Crysis 3 @ very high settings, AA = TXAA med. (2xT 1) and AF = 16x. Around 59 - 84 fps

Assassin's Creed Unity at Ultra settings, AA = MSAA-4x, 60 - 78 fps.

Battlefield 4, Ultra Settings


Benchmarks

3dMark primary tests,

Fire Strike: Score 13255, GPU 18735, Physics 10615, Combined 4700
Sky Diver: Score 29593, GPU 53782, Physics 10211, Combined 19395
Cloud Gate: Score 26604, GPU 94531, Physics 7569
Ice Storm: Score 156462, GPU 363563, Physics 52263

Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3940XM,Alienware M18xR2


Heaven 4.0 benchmark, Preset = Extreme

3DMark 11

Graphics Score: 24584 || Physics Score: 9470 || Combined Scor: 8525

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GPU comparison at stock between 780m SLI, 880M SLI, R9 M290X SLI and 980M SLI

3DMark11 720p Performance GPU comparison at stock between 780m SLI, 880M SLI, R9 M290X SLI and 980M SLI.


*Notebookcheck review data of 780m SLI, 880M SLI and R9 M290X SLI for reference.

Known issue

None :)

Dual 330W PSU mod.


Random Pictures

After almost waitin for 2 weeks today i got 2 x 980M yeahh i was so happy today afternoon.
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Aw m18x R2 Dual 980m SLI upgrade!!